The media may think Former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton won in her testimony to House Select Committee on Benghazi, but Chairman Trey Gowdy (R-S.C.) thinks Clinton was very good at lying. Gowdy appeared NBC’s “Meet the Press” on Sunday, Oct. 25, 2015 and suggested that Clinton may have perjured herself during her testimony.
Gowdy revealed to host Chuck Todd that Clinton only appeared to have been “cooperative” during her 11-hour testimony during a public hearing about the Sept. 11, 2012 Benghazi terror attacks on Thursday, Oct. 22. Gowdy explained, “She answered the questions, and I would note I don’t think I ever cut her off. She was given ample opportunity, so she answered the questions, yeah, if that’s your definition of cooperative.”
The committee chairman however, expressed that for Clinton to have really cooperate she had to have actually answered with the truth something he does not think she did. Gowdy said, “I’ve always also injected an element of wholeness and completeness and also truthfulness in the definition of cooperative.” The chairman seemed to imply that Clinton may have perjured herself. Gowdy summed it up, “Did she cooperate in answering the question? Yes. Was it an accurate answer? No.”
The major problem with her testimony, the number of emails she said were on State Department server before she handed them over in December 2014. Clinton said during her testimony, “I believed the vast majority of the emails were in their system … 90 [percent] to 95 percent were already there… If they wanted to see them they would certainly been able to do so.” The response was contradictory to State Department regulations, that Clinton’s “emails were not automatically archived during [her] tenure.”
Clinton repeatedly cited those percentages during her testimony, but never mentioned the source. Gowdy said that Clinton lied about because she would not say the source of her facts, “I gave her an opportunity to tell me where the 90 to 95 percent figure comes from. She’s wrong about that.” As the Daily Caller pointed out Clinton said that “in order to deflect charges of attempting to hide her electronic communications and skirt federal archiving rules.”
Gowdy questioned Clinton about those figures during her testimony asking, “That is maybe the 10th time you have cited that figure today. And I have not heard anyone other than you cite that figure. Who told you that 90 to 95 percent of your emails were in the State Department system? Who told you that?” Clinton responded her numbers came from the State Department, “We learned that from the State Department and their analysis of the emails that were already on the system.”
The press did not believe Clinton either, they asked deputy spokesman Mark Toner on Thursday, Oct. 22 to confirm who gave Clinton that number from the department, “Who at the State Department would’ve informed Clinton or her aides that 90 to 95 percent of her emails had been captured in State Department systems?”
Toner could not answer and told the reporter to ask her campaign about it, because he did not believe the State Department provided her those stats. Toner explained, “I’m not, frankly, in a position to do that right now. I would have to refer you, frankly, to her campaign team, which has used that figure previously, I think, and explained it in a fact sheet that they released. It was, frankly, her campaign staff that used it, the figure, so they can give you more information about the rationale or background behind it. I’m not aware that we have given that figure but, again, I’m not in a position right now to confirm that.”