Presidential candidate Carly Fiorina took some air time this weekend to call out GOP rival Donald Trump for a “pattern” of behavior she identified as one suited more for an entertainer but “certainly not the pattern of a leader.”
Asked by interviewer Chris Wallace if she was “prepared to call Trump out” on the weekend show FoxNewsSunday, Fiorina took the opportunity and did just that. The former Hewlett-Packard CEO, and a previous target of Trump’s bullying remarks, told host Wallace that the mocking of a reporter for a physical condition which apparently limits flexibility of the journalist’s arms was Trump’s pattern.
“This is the pattern, isn’t it? The pattern is he says something insulting, offensive, and outrageous. The media pays attention.,” Fiorina replied. “Then he claims we all misunderstood him. The media pays attention again.”
Trump ‘looks the smallest of all’
She added perhaps this might be the pattern of an entertainer. “It’s certainly not the pattern of a leader. Apparently Donald Trump only feels big when he’s trying make everyone else look small. Of course, in the end he looks the smallest of all.”
Wallace then referred to Fiorina’s previously stated desire to reduce “the 73,000-page tax code to three pages.” He asked her to respond to specific parts of it.
On the matter of ending “mortgage deductions,” Fiorina answered “[p]robably yes” and followed that with information that the Hoover Institute, of which she served as a member of the board of trustees, already has “a three-page tax code out for 20 years,” and she thinks “… fundamentally what we ought to do is have the government to take away less money so that it has to give less money back. A 73,000-page tax code is so complicated. This is how the government maintains power. It’s giving all these credits and deductions back, because it takes too much away. Of course, it’s true, if you’re late, you have to pay interest, but if the government is late, they never pay interest.”
Focused more on specific deductions, rather than her remark about governmental complication, Wallace asked Fiorina if she would “eliminate the deduction for charitable donations?” She replied, “Probably. Look, if we added two more back in, let’s say those are the two most popular deductions, the charitable tax donations and home mortgage tax deduction, good. Let’s add two more back in.
The fundamental design philosophy, however, is lower every rate, close every loophole, because government takes too –“
‘Everybody’s ox gets gored’
Wallace interrupts her with “[b]ut ou would end both of those deductions,” and she replies “I said probably, I said even if we put both back in, can you imagine how much simpler that would be. This is what the government does. It takes away too much money and then with all those deductions and loopholes, it exerts power. I could live with two deductions, Chris. I could live with the charitable and the home mortgage deduction.”
And then Fiorina explained her thoughts about lobbyists, politicians and lawyers. “But this is what always happens. Everybody says, oh, you can’t take those away for 73,000 pages never gets reformed, never gets reform. The fundamental blueprint — you have to have a blueprint to have fundamental reform. You know why this has never happened? Because everybody’s ox is going to get gored. If you go from 73,000 pages down to three pages, everybody’s ox gets gored — every politician, every lobbyist, every accountant, every lawyer. The only people who benefit are the small, the powerless, the new business.”
Fiorina added that “[t]he tax code, the complexity of government favors the big, the powerful, the wealthy, the well-connected. It’s called crony capitalism. Republicans have engaged in it as well as Democrats. If you level the playing field by simplifying, then you help the small all powerless and the middle class.” For more on the interview, please see FoxNews for transcript.